Agreed. But first a solo movie.... WINTER SOLDIER: A MAGICAL ADVENTURE
aguadiablo2025-11-05 13:57
Maybe they will kill him off and then do a prequel/midquel
aaufooboo2025-11-05 15:18
He is the White Wolf now!
Sonicfan420696662025-11-05 15:48
I think they dropped the White Wolf plotline during Falcon & the Winter Soldier when they told him not to show his face in Wakanda again.
I was excited for White Wolf but now he seems to be attached to the AvengerZ as a reformed Winter Soldier.
Learnin2Shit2025-11-05 16:11
I’m assuming there going for the revolution. Bucks last outfit we see him in is almost a 1-1 of his revolution outfit from the comics. With the red star on the arm and everything.
atomcrafter2025-11-05 18:58
White Wolf was just a nod. Everything else about that character was given to Killmonger.
UnjustNation2025-11-05 17:39
They should kill off Sam in Doomsday/Secret Wars and make Bucky the next Captain America.
Brave New World basically killed the Captain America franchise and audiences don’t really seem that interested in Sam as Cap.
Might as well reboot it with Bucky.
gerardatron2025-11-05 19:05
Don't kill off Sam, make the Avengers-AvengerZ rivalry some weird short side story and have Bucky appear as the New Avengers' own Captain America just to piss Sam off. Then shit gets real and both teams end up working together. Also the Bucky Cap thing sticks around because it tested well with the public, so now Bucky gets stuck with another persona he didn't really want
eolson32025-11-05 19:39
I can't imagine this Bucky taking up the shield when Sam is around. Would be so insulting to Steve's choice, which Bucky highly values. Killing Sam so quickly just to hand it off to another white guy would be horribly tone deaf.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 19:50
That definitely not happening. They love Sam. In contrast, they don't really seem to like Bucky
gusborwig2025-11-05 18:01
Deadpool and Bucky would hit hard!
blodyn__tatws2025-11-05 22:34
God yes. Sorry, but I love Bucky. And I love Sebastian Stan AS Bucky. 🤪
We'll never get that solo movie though.
Appropriate_Music_242025-11-06 00:28
I always thought that a winter soldier series on Disney+ would be amazing! Just imagine the backstory they could tell. It would be so good!
silverBruise_322025-11-05 13:53
This definitely sounds like his time in the MCU is up, or almost up. I hope he has a lot of great roles ahead of him, but it'll always suck that they never did much with Bucky
scooter-4112025-11-05 14:22
He’s at the center of 3 of the best MCU movies. (Winter soldier, civil war, thunderbolts) I think Bucky got treated better than most.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:26
He's a mute antagonist in one, a plot device in another, and ... Thunderbolts? Are you for real? In no way was he the center of that. Val had a bigger role than him
Stevenwave2025-11-05 14:49
He did more as a mute antagonist than most have done unmuted.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:50
True, and that was when the character peaked
Stevenwave2025-11-06 06:57
Unfortunately, yeah. They really should've had his role in the show be flashbacks to his past as WS. The setup was right there with him in therapy. Could've tied it into trauma he, Sam and Walker all have from war and conflict.
silverBruise_322025-11-06 08:45
That could have been really good ... but, unfortunately, they didn't care enough about him to try
UnjustNation2025-11-05 14:33
They probably massively regret not making him Captain America over Sam especially after Sebastian Stan got nominated for Best Actor and Brave New World turned out to be meh
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:34
I mean, if they regretted that, they would have given him a bigger role in Thunderbolts. We have no real reason to think they regret anything
UnjustNation2025-11-05 14:40
He’s the 2nd biggest focus in Thunderbolts after Florence Pugh and is billed 2nd in the credits.
Considering Florence Pugh has even more Oscar nominations than Sebastian Stan, that sounds about right.
Plus Thunderbolts was filmed before his nomination and the release of Brave New World.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:44
He's not even the fifth character with the most focus. He's less important than Sentry, Red Guardian, Val, and even Ghost. He's a congressman, and his whole plotline ends up not mattering at all. We have no idea why he got involved in politics, and none of it matters by the end of the movie, anyway
Billing is deceptive, and Pugh has exactly as many Oscar nominations as Stan
UnjustNation2025-11-05 14:48
>He's a congressman, and his whole plotline ends up not mattering at all.
That is precisely why he has the 2nd most focus lmao.
The writers straight up created an entire sideplot for Sebastian Stan just so he can get more screentime.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:49
They tacked on an idiotic, out-of-nowhere subplot that doesn't go anywhere and achieve anything. It also doesn't take up as much screentime as you're trying to make it sound
Expensive-Trip-18582025-11-05 15:40
She has one Oscar nomination, just like him. He’s not the 2nd biggest focus, that was clearly Sentry/Bob.
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 14:51
Different tone if bnw was actually great
SpiffySpacemanSpiff2025-11-05 15:00
But it wasn’t.
Sam as cap is just boring as shit.
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 15:01
Cuz the writing was puu puu
Expensive-Trip-18582025-11-05 15:37
They had a lot of chances to give him a more relevant role, he’s been getting critical acclaim for years and was nominated to an Emmy at the height of the D+ series popularity. His Oscar nom was only a matter of time, but Marvel doesn’t really care if they have great actors with Oscar recognition — look at Mahershala Ali with two Oscars sitting on his shelf…
Business_Barber_36112025-11-05 17:17
This is just a narrative you guys invented because you're still salty.
mrbaryonyx2025-11-05 17:51
There's a lot wrong with how Sam's been handled, but people insisting on Bucky being Cap will never not be annoying.
No_Imagination_24902025-11-05 14:37
During the promo tour for Thunderbolts it was noticeable how tired and bored he looked compared to the other stars, especially when you remember how much fun he seemed to have with Anthony Mackie during their interviews. He's been doing Marvel stuff almost continuously since phase 1 so it would make sense if he wants to move on now.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:40
Yeah, it did seem like he didn't want to be there. And I don't blame him. After 15 years in the MCU, he had to promote someone else's project. Again. Who would muster the excitement for something like that?
tepenrod2025-11-05 14:52
He always kind of looks that way to me?
Suialthor2025-11-05 19:27
They paired him with Mackie for interviews because how much it draws him out. Unfortunately I can not remember the interview where Sebastian said this.
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 14:51
He deserves his own movie
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:51
He does, but he's never going to get it
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 14:53
You lack belief
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:55
I'm a realist. There's no reason to believe he's getting more than he's gotten now. Read the article
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 15:01
I can’t read shit
silverBruise_322025-11-05 15:03
Maybe you can try to open the aritcle on a computer, or in a different browser
Or, just look at the quote. It tells you everything
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 15:05
Real shit
SP15702025-11-05 14:00
He should try to avoid being typecast as the evil Russian asset like in Winter Soldier or The Apprentice
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 14:13
He's done a lot. Drama, comedy, thriller, etc. I personally don't think he's typecast at all.
brendamn2025-11-05 14:14
It's a joke
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 14:15
Ah. Okay.
SkywalkerRanchSauce2025-11-05 14:15
Missed the joke lad
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 14:16
I did. It's early for me.
SkywalkerRanchSauce2025-11-05 14:19
Good morning. :)
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 14:21
Hahaha. Good morning. I need to go make coffee. *yawn* 😅
jackthedandiest2025-11-05 14:35
Stan is the embodiment of a Russian asset, he was born in heavily soviet influenced Romania back in the day, lmao, perfect casting
But I agree
Hustler-Two2025-11-05 14:42
Okay, that one was pretty good.
exOldTrafford2025-11-05 20:35
Did not expect quality political satire in r/marvelstudios of all places
SeniorRicketts2025-11-06 05:18
Keep politics out of comics! Do it like X-men and The Boys
Chirotera2025-11-06 05:58
SeniorRicketts2025-11-06 06:49
Or Captain America, can't get more apolitical than that
johnnyss12025-11-05 14:53
Boom!
fistkick182025-11-05 16:28
He was a Russian asset in Gossip Girl too
TacoTycoonn2025-11-05 17:02
At least the Winter Soldier broke free of his programming
greatmate992025-11-05 18:03
At least he was a true USSR hating american in Hot Tub Time Machine
eolson32025-11-05 19:37
Winter Soldier in a deep cover time heist operation.
MainZack2025-11-05 21:31
These are their secret commie weapons
idontdeserveachance2025-11-05 18:23
cfor real, its like those roles just stick with you no matter what
CaptHayfever2025-11-05 19:56
It's times like these that I wish awards were still a thing.
RipErRiley2025-11-06 03:25
HUNGWHITEBOI252025-11-05 14:07
aweee damn…so Bucky’s dying in Doomsday eh :/
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:09
Sure sounds like it.
Secret Wars at the latest
ProductArizona2025-11-05 14:22
To be honest, what's left for his character? They didn't really expand him as a senator or whatever and he was kind of the odd one out in Thunderbolts. He would have been a good leader for that group, but they gave that to Yelena.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:27
Exactly. They sped through his story, and now there's nothing left to do
TheDeadlyCat2025-11-05 14:30
Except pulling a Coulson.
Honestly, reversing his appearance to pre-TFAWS was a downgrade as was his dreary persona.
I really liked seeing him smile and overcome his issues when he woke up on that couch. His style should reflect that.
Given that’s not the case I am fine letting him go instead of idling around that grief.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 14:31
That's not an important enough of a role to keep bringing him back (I'm just talking about the movies here - the canonicity of AoS is kind of dubious)
Edit: I felt that the "happiness" he experienced in TFATWS is unearned, and trite. Him disappearing into Sam's life isn't as satisfying as some fans found it to be. So, since that's the point where his story ended, I'm okay with letting go, too
TheDeadlyCat2025-11-05 15:58
Pulling a Coulson was a metaphor for “dying to bring a team truly together”. Not talking about bringing Coulson back.
So regardless where we stand on him processing his past self and seeing him happier we are ready to see him go. Good.
Didn’t know people hated him making progress on his trauma. He had been dealing with that since after Cap 2.
We have seen progress since then and I kind of enjoyed him going through different phases of dealing with it. That time with Sam could have been a starting point for him wandering around the US, showing up in different cameos before returning in Cap 4.
The whole senator thing seemed pointless and shoehorned in to have someone from the cast start at another angle to have info on Val. He could just as well have been at the right place at the right time on that desert road.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 16:02
That would be a pretty sucky role. Dying for people who barely know him, or don't really care. Not a great ending, after everything.
>Didn’t know people hated him making progress on his trauma. He had been dealing with that since after Cap 2.
It was poorly done. It's not really about him, and it victim-blames him.
>We have seen progress since then and I kind of enjoyed him going through different phases of dealing with it. That time with Sam could have been a starting point for him wandering around the US, showing up in different cameos before returning in Cap 4.
But we don't really see him go through it. That's the issue. We see him going from one place to another, with little development. And him wandering, and then being Sam's sidekick again, would be more of the same crap.
>The whole senator thing seemed pointless and shoehorned in to have someone from the cast start at another angle to have info on Val.
Totally agree here. They wrote his role in the movie backwards - it wasn't about what's right for his character, it was about what's how he can best serve the team/Yelena.
SpiffySpacemanSpiff2025-11-05 14:59
I don’t think they sped through his story, they just never told it, opting instead to use his popularity to prop up other, less likely to succeed projects like FAWS, CA4, and thunderbolts (the latter to the most success).
Should have made him cap, would have been a much more interesting story.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 15:02
They never showed it. That's the issue. And you're right - he was there just to prop up other characters.
>Should have made him cap, would have been a much more interesting story.
It could have been great. But we got what we got ... which is crap
Sonicfan420696662025-11-05 15:50
I'm certain the original plan was to have Bucky become Cap. Stan's eight picture contract was a huge deal at the time.
SpiffySpacemanSpiff2025-11-05 17:09
Yeah there really wasnt much of a FalconCap at the beginning of the MCU, it felt like the MCU was driving the comics so that they could point to an in-comics FalconCap as a basis for that mantle shift.
Business_Barber_36112025-11-05 17:14
So why do you think they "deviated" then?
(no response)
blupengu2025-11-05 16:28
Ngl I’d love him to stick around with the thunderbolts as their struggling single mom of 5 kids LOL, I want to see what happened in those 14 months
ProductArizona2025-11-05 16:53
I wish they would have done that for the movie. Bucky seems like such a natural choice to lead that group. A group of misfit mercs with shadowy pasts getting over their traumas and becoming the good guys.... something Bucky already did.
I know they wanted to push Yelena, and dont get me wrong, she was great, but its sad seeing Bucky get left behind.
LampyV22025-11-05 21:55
Give him TWO robot arms. Double the badassery.
tepenrod2025-11-05 14:53
I think he can make it out but retire kind of a thing. He deserves to settle down and live his life when he’s not a weapon for someone else.
Palmquistador2025-11-05 15:55
They probably all are. It’s ok. They’ll be back. Stan would do great in all kinds of action movies. I’m sure he has range for other stuff too if he wants. I’d be curious in what he wants to do next.
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 14:10
He's done a lot of things differently though. Has been for a long time. The Bronze, I, Tonya, We Have Always Lived In The Castle, Fresh, A Different Man, hell he played a gay son in Political Animals. That's far from Bucky. I even loved that play Picnic he did and not just because of his delicious abs. 😋.
I should specify I'm just going off this quote. Didn't read the article.
brendamn2025-11-05 14:16
He's done better than Chris Evans
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 14:19
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nbperfect2025-11-05 14:42
I wouldn't have thought so either but your list makes a very good case lol, forgot he was even in half of these
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 15:14
Haha. Let me be clear. I'm not saying that Chris is better or that Seb is better. I don't want to compare the two. I think Seb has done a fantastic job with his career and I'm very proud of him. However, I just feel they're very different actors. Chris has been in the game a long time but at the end of the day, he is more of a movie star actor. He does/has done more films. But he does have range, and he has directed. Which is great for any actor. Seb likes to fluctuate. He's more flexible. He'll do more independent films or TV in addition to his many cinematic roles.
I think Seb will go for an Oscar one day. Whereas Chris is more leading man but also wants to do more BTS and will never win an Oscar.
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 14:52
Wow you sound so defensive
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 15:15
No? Not at all. I was just tired and gave a short answer. I'm more awake now, and I explained my comment in more detail.
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 15:30
Sorry seemed I was the offensive one and replied very immaturely
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 15:33
All good. No worries. = )
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-05 15:46
Didn’t know we can end in peace in Reddit
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 15:50
Hahahaha. Well, I'm not a child keyboard warrior. There are some nice people on Reddit. We exist. It might be like finding a flea on an elephant's ass, but we're out here.😆
yyzda322025-11-05 15:05
He played Trump, which was hilariously not Buckyesque
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 15:17
Yup. And that was a film I decided to avoid. (Sorry Seb).
blodyn__tatws2025-11-05 22:39
You should see it though. It's absolutely jaw dropping how he morphed into Trump. By the end it was uncanny. And it wasn't because of prosthetics. He acted with his whole face. The way he moved his mouth when he spoke...
He deserved an Oscar.
OptimusWang2025-11-05 17:11
Don’t you forget Hot Tub Time Machine! 🤣
Janderson24942025-11-05 18:26
He was so good in A Different Man, that movie was a trip and I loved it.
stakes-lines-grades2025-11-06 00:07
I liked him as the NASCAR driver in Logan Lucky.
Underrated movie.
scrotanimus2025-11-05 14:29
He should try something different, like a middle aged, 40s, Luke Skywalker.
phil_davis2025-11-05 15:10
Lol, I thought to myself "Star Wars it is then!" as soon as I read the title. I doubt that's the kind of project he has in mind though.
AceyPuppy2025-11-05 14:42
Carter Baizen was a treasure.
leviathan09992025-11-05 14:49
Stage ONE??? But, but... That would make Justin Capshaw Stage ZERO!
johnnyss12025-11-05 14:52
He is already one our finest—-Tommy Lee, Jeff ghilooley, trump. he knocks it out of the park every time. He’s hardly typecast.
PressingBReallyHard2025-11-05 14:59
He should run for Congress.
Mustang19112025-11-05 15:02
Luke Skywalker please.
bondinferno2025-11-05 15:04
Batman?
Wooden_Passage_26122025-11-05 15:05
That's amazing. He's our bucky Barnes, aka winter soldier, aka white wolf
GHamPlayz2025-11-05 15:09
Must be in contract negotiations lol
silverBruise_322025-11-05 15:43
No, his contract is up. And he ain't getting another
Smart_Peach10612025-11-05 15:17
You know I’d be pretty salty if I was in Stan’s shoe’s to be honest.
Man’s been in the MCU for 15 years now, a phase 1 veteran, playing a decently popular character, with a decent amount of source material to draw from, and yet Marvel and Feige have at every turn have just used Bucky as a supporting prop in other people’s stories while giving Sebastian Stan sweet fuck all to work with.
Which must be especially irritating seeing as Sebastian Stan has multiple interviews taking about Bucky, and all the things he wanted to explore and the depth he wanted to delve into the character with and just none of it happened.
Imagine watching Feige give out all these solo shows too random ass new actors and random new characters, while you’ve busted your ass into making a Bucky into a well rounded and decently well liked character with practically scraps just for Feige to saddle you with supporting roles too everyone else all the time.
Imagine reading Thunderbolts script and finding out the new black widow chick is being prioritised over you.
Reading FATwS script and releasing it’s just the fucking Falcon show with some crumbs thrown Bucky’s way!
Bucky is one of the only major phase 1-3 supporting characters to not be given a solo project where he’s the leading protagonist. FAtWS was NOT a solo project, that was a Falcon show from the ground up with Bucky inserted as an afterthought.
I mean ffs they green-lit a show for ECHO, a character with barely any source material, with an unproven actress who had barely acted in anything at all BEFORE her character even debuted in Hawkeye to see if she was liked, yet the best Bucky can get played by a proven actor like Sebastian Stan with a history in the MCU, with a fanbase that likes him Is supporting roles to newer characters?
Sebastian Stan has more to offer than standing around in the background with a serious face getting an occasional line and being used as a marketing prop, and at this point that’s ALL the MCU has given him since Civil War.
Seriously you’d think someone at Marvel just hates Bucky and/or has an axe to grind with Sebastian Stan, maybe he banged an execs wife or something!
screamingkumquats2025-11-05 15:34
The MCU doesn’t seem to know how to handle a lot of characters, they’ve fumbled a lot of them. Thor is cool but he had one good movie and his trauma was mostly treated as a joke. Wanda was extremely messily written and her development and writing was all over the place. Natasha didn’t get a movie until after Endgame, her development was poor and her own movie felt less like Natasha’s movie and more Yelenas. Yelena is cool and Florence is a great actress but Natasha’s my favorite mcu and comic character so I’m still a little bitter about that. Marvel is seemingly done with the Eternals, we haven’t seen anyone from Moonknight or Werewolf by Night since their release. I also have a feeling it’ll be a while before we see Riri again and that’s also a if we ever see her again. Like is she gonna get the Eternals treatment because fans didn’t like Iron Heart either? A lot of actors deserve to be salty over how their character was handled, a lot of fans are salty over how their favorite character was treated.
Smart_Peach10612025-11-06 00:01
At least a lot of the others got solo shows/projects.
Thor got 4 movies, and yeah Love and Thunder might have sucked but they at least ATTEMPTED to adapt his stuff.
Same with Wanda, she got her own show that was massively well liked, it sucks the character assassinated her in MoM, but that doesn’t change that WandaVision helped explode her popularity.
Natasha’s movie really should have been released when Captain Marvel did, but at least she got one.
Riri, Moonknight, and The Eternals were at least given chances with their solo shows and movie.
Bucky? He hasn’t had anything but supporting roles. Bucky has been in the MCU for 15 years and there’s a good chance he has less screentime than most of these new characters that starred in their own shows right off the bat.
Imagine working at a company for 15 years, doing your job well, and instead of the boss promoting you when decided to expand the company, they hire new candidates for the positions instead or promote newbies that have been at the company for a few months. Most people would quit the company if that was happening to them.
Even in FATWS there was 40 minutes of screen time more that Falcon got over Bucky, how do you have a show with Bucky’s name in the title and still he gets an entire episode less screen time?
rhaegar_skywalker2025-11-05 15:41
Fr. I've been waiting since Civil War to see how they'd proceed with Bucky, since he was one of the most interesting characters, only for them to ruin it.
Honestly instead of TFAWTS, they should've made an R rated show for the Winter Soldier pre-TWS, it would've been more fun to watch. Then they could've just made him Captain America instead of Sam who's honestly boring af.
Gambitismyheart2025-11-05 15:46
100% agreed.
Moonveil2025-11-05 19:09
Bucky is like one of the most beloved characters in the MCU, especially when you include international fans, and he's a big part of the reason why Winter Soldier remains my favourite MCU movie. I'm just baffled that they never gave Bucky his own show, and every time he's paired up with Sam they have to limit him in some way so that he doesn't completely show Sam up.
Stan is a good actor too, they should have made him the next Cap and given him something more meaty to work with. I loved Thunderbolts and Yelena, but I don't understand why they were trying to make it Yelena's team and not Bucky's team. Just seemed like so many missed opportunities where Marvel took him out of the game, and it's a shame because WS still has the best fight scenes IMO. Even in the last two Avengers films he was barely there. If the upcoming films really are going to be Stan's final appearance in the MCU, I hope he goes out with a bang. Though honestly, with how many actors they are stuffing into the movie, I have a feeling he's going to get crumbs again :/
screamingkumquats2025-11-05 19:36
Florence Pugh is popular (for good reason) and people really like Yelena. They liked her more than anyone else in Black Widow. I think the logic is give her more and more people will watch it, like it and talk about it. I love Yelena but it’s a shame not every character gets the same treatment. I would have been cool to see Bucky as a leader and Natasha is my favorite mcu and comic character so I’m still a little bitter that they’re doing more with Yelena already.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 19:55
But both MCU movies she starred in were flops. Yeah, Black Widow has the excuse of being released on D+ like a week into the movie's run, but Thunderbolts doesn't have that. That logic doesn't hold water
screamingkumquats2025-11-05 20:16
Black Widow came out during lockdown and was released on Disney+ so that didn’t help that, a lot of people thought it was too late for a Black Widow movie too. Thunderbolts was well received by people who watched it but it unfortunately came out when Marvel isn’t having lucky releasing projects people like it also didn’t help that general audiences don’t know who most of the characters are.
silverBruise_322025-11-05 19:57
>Though honestly, with how many actors they are stuffing into the movie, I have a feelings he's going to get crumbs again :/
That seems pretty likely. He was only on the set for a few times, and finished filming weeks before anyone else. He's going out with a whimper, probably in a way that makes Sam look better
Confident-Shift-97642025-11-05 21:58
I’m salty they have WonderMan but no Bucky show. Falcon and WS is Falcon’s show. I want pure adrenaline packed action John Wick on steroid show.
Expensive-Trip-18582025-11-05 15:29
He’s using the past tense… Fly high, Bucky.
blodyn__tatws2025-11-05 22:42
Ok, I'm crying now.
Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-11-05 15:35
Whether or not Bucky’s story ends in this saga, I would definitely be satisfied. He’s been around for 14 years, survived through the decades as the Winter Soldier, found peace in Wakanda, said goodbye to his best friend, got to see Sam pick up the shield and join the New Avengers.
Dew4yne2025-11-05 15:47
I like to think Thunderbolts was his redemption arc and he is 100% on the chopping board for Doomsday
Basic-Highway-6952025-11-05 20:16
they're gonna have him die with him and sam not being on perfect terms yet to go for the angst aren't they
Jertimmer2025-11-05 15:47
Peak cinema: having a talking dick.
Retire buddy.
MrBrendan5012025-11-05 17:10
A Different Man to be exact, phenomenal movie
9111111111112025-11-05 17:58
Marvel certainly had a hand in his career development
GamersGames8012025-11-05 18:21
I'd watch him in almost anything
MC_Hify2025-11-05 19:12
Yeah, I saw that clip from "The Bronze" on reddit the other day.
OLVANstorm2025-11-05 20:52
That sex scene he did in that gymnastics movie was sure...different!
Commentaires
I was excited for White Wolf but now he seems to be attached to the AvengerZ as a reformed Winter Soldier.
Brave New World basically killed the Captain America franchise and audiences don’t really seem that interested in Sam as Cap.
Might as well reboot it with Bucky.
We'll never get that solo movie though.
Considering Florence Pugh has even more Oscar nominations than Sebastian Stan, that sounds about right.
Plus Thunderbolts was filmed before his nomination and the release of Brave New World.
Billing is deceptive, and Pugh has exactly as many Oscar nominations as Stan
That is precisely why he has the 2nd most focus lmao.
The writers straight up created an entire sideplot for Sebastian Stan just so he can get more screentime.
Sam as cap is just boring as shit.
Or, just look at the quote. It tells you everything
But I agree
Secret Wars at the latest
Honestly, reversing his appearance to pre-TFAWS was a downgrade as was his dreary persona.
I really liked seeing him smile and overcome his issues when he woke up on that couch. His style should reflect that.
Given that’s not the case I am fine letting him go instead of idling around that grief.
Edit: I felt that the "happiness" he experienced in TFATWS is unearned, and trite. Him disappearing into Sam's life isn't as satisfying as some fans found it to be. So, since that's the point where his story ended, I'm okay with letting go, too
So regardless where we stand on him processing his past self and seeing him happier we are ready to see him go. Good.
Didn’t know people hated him making progress on his trauma. He had been dealing with that since after Cap 2.
We have seen progress since then and I kind of enjoyed him going through different phases of dealing with it. That time with Sam could have been a starting point for him wandering around the US, showing up in different cameos before returning in Cap 4.
The whole senator thing seemed pointless and shoehorned in to have someone from the cast start at another angle to have info on Val. He could just as well have been at the right place at the right time on that desert road.
>Didn’t know people hated him making progress on his trauma. He had been dealing with that since after Cap 2.
It was poorly done. It's not really about him, and it victim-blames him.
>We have seen progress since then and I kind of enjoyed him going through different phases of dealing with it. That time with Sam could have been a starting point for him wandering around the US, showing up in different cameos before returning in Cap 4.
But we don't really see him go through it. That's the issue. We see him going from one place to another, with little development. And him wandering, and then being Sam's sidekick again, would be more of the same crap.
>The whole senator thing seemed pointless and shoehorned in to have someone from the cast start at another angle to have info on Val.
Totally agree here. They wrote his role in the movie backwards - it wasn't about what's right for his character, it was about what's how he can best serve the team/Yelena.
Should have made him cap, would have been a much more interesting story.
>Should have made him cap, would have been a much more interesting story.
It could have been great. But we got what we got ... which is crap
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I know they wanted to push Yelena, and dont get me wrong, she was great, but its sad seeing Bucky get left behind.
I should specify I'm just going off this quote. Didn't read the article.
I think Seb will go for an Oscar one day. Whereas Chris is more leading man but also wants to do more BTS and will never win an Oscar.
He deserved an Oscar.
Underrated movie.
Man’s been in the MCU for 15 years now, a phase 1 veteran, playing a decently popular character, with a decent amount of source material to draw from, and yet Marvel and Feige have at every turn have just used Bucky as a supporting prop in other people’s stories while giving Sebastian Stan sweet fuck all to work with.
Which must be especially irritating seeing as Sebastian Stan has multiple interviews taking about Bucky, and all the things he wanted to explore and the depth he wanted to delve into the character with and just none of it happened.
Imagine watching Feige give out all these solo shows too random ass new actors and random new characters, while you’ve busted your ass into making a Bucky into a well rounded and decently well liked character with practically scraps just for Feige to saddle you with supporting roles too everyone else all the time.
Imagine reading Thunderbolts script and finding out the new black widow chick is being prioritised over you.
Reading FATwS script and releasing it’s just the fucking Falcon show with some crumbs thrown Bucky’s way!
Bucky is one of the only major phase 1-3 supporting characters to not be given a solo project where he’s the leading protagonist. FAtWS was NOT a solo project, that was a Falcon show from the ground up with Bucky inserted as an afterthought.
I mean ffs they green-lit a show for ECHO, a character with barely any source material, with an unproven actress who had barely acted in anything at all BEFORE her character even debuted in Hawkeye to see if she was liked, yet the best Bucky can get played by a proven actor like Sebastian Stan with a history in the MCU, with a fanbase that likes him Is supporting roles to newer characters?
Sebastian Stan has more to offer than standing around in the background with a serious face getting an occasional line and being used as a marketing prop, and at this point that’s ALL the MCU has given him since Civil War.
Seriously you’d think someone at Marvel just hates Bucky and/or has an axe to grind with Sebastian Stan, maybe he banged an execs wife or something!
Thor got 4 movies, and yeah Love and Thunder might have sucked but they at least ATTEMPTED to adapt his stuff.
Same with Wanda, she got her own show that was massively well liked, it sucks the character assassinated her in MoM, but that doesn’t change that WandaVision helped explode her popularity.
Natasha’s movie really should have been released when Captain Marvel did, but at least she got one.
Riri, Moonknight, and The Eternals were at least given chances with their solo shows and movie.
Bucky? He hasn’t had anything but supporting roles. Bucky has been in the MCU for 15 years and there’s a good chance he has less screentime than most of these new characters that starred in their own shows right off the bat.
Imagine working at a company for 15 years, doing your job well, and instead of the boss promoting you when decided to expand the company, they hire new candidates for the positions instead or promote newbies that have been at the company for a few months. Most people would quit the company if that was happening to them.
Even in FATWS there was 40 minutes of screen time more that Falcon got over Bucky, how do you have a show with Bucky’s name in the title and still he gets an entire episode less screen time?
Honestly instead of TFAWTS, they should've made an R rated show for the Winter Soldier pre-TWS, it would've been more fun to watch. Then they could've just made him Captain America instead of Sam who's honestly boring af.
Stan is a good actor too, they should have made him the next Cap and given him something more meaty to work with. I loved Thunderbolts and Yelena, but I don't understand why they were trying to make it Yelena's team and not Bucky's team. Just seemed like so many missed opportunities where Marvel took him out of the game, and it's a shame because WS still has the best fight scenes IMO. Even in the last two Avengers films he was barely there. If the upcoming films really are going to be Stan's final appearance in the MCU, I hope he goes out with a bang. Though honestly, with how many actors they are stuffing into the movie, I have a feeling he's going to get crumbs again :/
That seems pretty likely. He was only on the set for a few times, and finished filming weeks before anyone else. He's going out with a whimper, probably in a way that makes Sam look better
Retire buddy.